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Post by yudi on Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:46 pm

HISTORY OF INDO-ROCK

The Netherlands had a fascinating subculture of emigre Dutch-Indonesians (Indo's, Indonesian Eurasians and Polynesian Moluccans) who hit the instrumental rock scene in the years 1958 - 1965 and constituted the "Indo-Rock" movement, with groups like The Tielman Brothers, Electric Johnny & his Skyrockets, The Black Dynamites, The Crazy Rockers, Oety & his Real Rockers, The Javalins, The Hap-Cats and many more.



The birth of
Indo-Rock (1955-1959)

In the mid fifties an unique instrumental music genre raised from Dutch-Indonesian musicians who repatriated to the Netherlands due to their home-lands independence at December 29, 1949. They brought their tropical culture and a passionate love for the
guitar. The guitar was imported in the Indian Archipel by the Portuguese explorers in the 14th Century. The traditional Portuguese song styles saudade and fado with guitar accompaniment became later krontjong (Malay) music. Krontjong is characterized by guitars
which are talking to each other and the guitarists play rhythmic and melodic parts by the feel. Except this musical baggage they had a predilection for Hawaiian-music (also popular in the Netherlands) and they knew the American country & western and the hot rock
& roll repertoire from the radio stations in Indonesia via American (AFN) stations from The Philippines and Australia.


The very first Indo bands
The (Real) Room Rockers (1957 - since 1959 The Hurricane Rollers), The Hot Jumpers (1958), The Bell Boys (later: The Black Dynamites) and The Rhythm Stars all originated from The Hague. At he same time it happened in Rotterdam with Oety & his Real Rockers, Electric
Johnny & The Skyrockets, The Rocking Diamonds and The Blue Eagles. Also in Amsterdam, Groningen, Zaandam, Maastricht and other towns you could find a scene of Indorock groups.They played on stage a mix of rock & roll, c&w, evergreens, Hawaiian- and
Indonesian folksongs and also the well-known instrumentals of that period. With the instrumental stuff they were at their best. The Indo-Rock bands were identifable with their three guitar line-up; they had a second lead guitarist in the band who played
counter melodies and reinforced accents. They admired the guitar riffs of Les Paul (in fact one of their biggest influences) and later The Ventures and the unique sound of The String-A-Longs was a great inspiration for them.


The first guitarist started with cheap accoustic guitars + added electric pick-up. Later they could buy real electric guitars which were available on the Dutch market at that time. First of all the Indo guitarists were mad about the German HŲfner guitars and the violin bass (later made famous by Paul McCartney) was also very in demand. Another popular German guitar was the Framus (model Hollywood) and next to the Italian Eko guitars we had our own Dutch Egmond electric guitars. However The Fender Jazzmaster became in 1961 their favourite guitar and the status symbol of Indo-Rock.



The Tielman Brothers - Andy Tielman the uncrowned king of Indo-Rock.
In 1957 came the Tielman Brothers to the Netherlands. Andy Tielman and his brothers Reggy, Ponthon and Loulou played already together in Indonesia as The Timor Rhythm Brothers. In Breda they started as The Four T's. They secured a job at the 1958 Brussels World's Fair
in the "Hawaiian Village" section of the Dutch pavilion. Hired to play for only fifteen minutes when the Hawaiian band took their break, the Four Tielman Brothers stole the show with their wild rock'n'roll songs and acrobatic antics. They tossed guitars across stage, played the guitar and the bass with their toes and teeth, and played their instruments behind their heads and upside down.


The Story of The Tielman Brothers

It was the start of their
club career in Germany (they started in the Ringstuben -Sputnik- at Mannheim). They first
played on Egmond guitars and also had Egmond amps, but since 1958 they were the first
owners of imported Gibson Les Paul models in Holland. Their professional show with speedy
light-fingered guitar-tricks, gentle smiling to the girls in the audience and swinging
top-down, became the start of the Indorock scene in Germany. Many Dutch Indo groups got
contracts in Germany during the early 60s. In the Netherlands at that time, bands could
only play on weekends for little or no money at all; in Germany bands could get a contract
for a month or at least a couple of weeks and make scandalous much money.



The 10 string Jazzmaster of Andy Tielman (by
Cees Bakker)


In 1961 Andy Tielman and
the other guitarists in the band (The Tielman Brothers) changed from Gibson Les Pauls to
Olympic White Jazzmasters, mainly because he found the Les Paul too heavy. Andy found the
sound to thin and he decided to convert his Jazzmaster into a 10 string. For that he made
4 holes at the non-tuner side of the peghead with a red hot big nail. A rather clever
idea, because drilling in a lengthwise cut piece of hard maple is risky, as you can see
with my own Jazmaster (picture below). Also itís most
likely that because they stayed in hotels, he had no proper drilling machine. He installed
spare tuners and an extra string retainer. He made extra sleeves in the nut. The bridge
was no problem, as you know the sadlles had 8 grooves each for string spacing.

The problem
was the holes in the string hold of the vibrato unit. Not a tremolo unit, Leo Fender
introduced this wrong name. Tremolo is a modulation of volume an vibrato is a modulation
of pitch. Andy solved that problem quite cleverly. As you might remember in those days the
thinnest string was 0.012. So Andy used thinner banjo strings. His tuning was as follows:



  • single E
  • B normal + B one octave up
    (Banjo A string)
  • G normal
    + G one octave up (E string)
  • D normal + D one octave up (B string)
  • A normal + A one octave up (G string)
  • single E


Now you may wonder why Andy
didnít use an electric 12 string like a Rickenbacker. If you listen to their music
you know why. With a 12 string electric the octaved A and E sound more lose and the single
ones are tighter and super tight playing was the hallmark of the Tielmans. Also they tuned
down their instruments 2 half tones down and during their Gibson years even 3 half tones.
That gave a deeper sound and less tension on the strings.




The Tielman Brothers were the leaders and all
other Indonesian bands followed them in every way. So when Andy had his new sound every
one was curious how he did this. So for a time he hid his headstock with a towel. But that
didnít help, his invention was copied by many other bands. The Fender company send over one of their reps
to Germany to see Andyís 10 string Jazzmaster but it never came to an agreement. The
German manufacturer Framus made a prototype of a 9 string, but it didnít go in
production. However there must have been a connection between Fender and Andy, because
from 1963 on he played on a dark blue metallic Jazzmaster with matching headstock.
This must be made specially for him because despite the Tielman copying no one else played
such a colour and even the Chinerey collection of custom colour Jazzmaster doesnít
include that varation.



Other Tielman innovations (by Cees Bakker)

I always wondered how Andy Tielman became his
stage wide big lead sound. Years later I found out that bass player Robby Latuperisa,
former drummer of The Javalins, had plugged through Andyís guitar signal to all other
Fender Bassmans and Showmans but also to P.A. installation. Not comparable to todayís
P.A. equipment but a true invention. I can tell you from my own experience that his stage
sound was incredible good, better then on records.



Another Tielman first was the use of 2 Fender
VI basses together. One with lighter gauge strings was plaid by Reggy Tielman, the second
lead/rhythm guitarist and the other one with heavier gauge strings was plaid by bassist
Robby Latuperisa. Also thanks to their amp settings Reggy sounded like an octave below
guitar and Robby like a real bass guitar, which is unique for a Fender VI.



1959 Once and Ready to Rock the first
Dutch instro recordings.

Lead guitarist Rob Boekholt (ex- Hap Cats) and the group The Hurricane Rollers from The
Hague made the first instrumental Indo-Rock recordings in the Summer of 1959 for the
Philips label. His own composition Once was build around a very strong original
melody and his trademark were the rolling notes. On the b-side a real drivin' number Hurricane
Rock. Rob used an Egmond Caledonia guitar during the session. Guitarist/sax player
Harry Koster and his Indo band The Black Dynamites recorded their rocker Ready To Rock
with an almost American sound for the Delahay label. Just before The Shadows and The
Ventures changed the instrumental scene complete, the now classic record Black Eyes
Rock c/w Johnny On His Strings was recorded by Electric Johnny & his
Skyrockets (CNR) and also released in the US (Felsted), UK (London) and Sweden (Sonet).
The same can be said of the first Tielman Brothers instro productions Black Eyes, 18th
Century Rock (Mozart!) and A.A.A. ( = Big Guitar) all recorded and
released on the Imperial label in 1960. Some of the best Dutch rock instrumentals were
recorded by Indo-Rock bands in the Netherlands and Germany in the periode 1959-1964, but
in 1965 is was all over for the Indo-Rock, because the bands were swept away and suffered
most by the uprising beat-explosion.


(c) piet muys, 1999
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apa yang kau tangkap kawan ?? tak cuma Tielman Brothers, Electric Johnny & his Skyrockets, The Black Dynamites, The Crazy Rockers, Oety & his Real Rockers, The Javalins, The Hap-Cats dan lainnya .... dan aku menemukan link di youtube ...

kalo tielman brothers mungkin kalian sudah mafhum, band ini unjuk skill dengan memainkan repertoar seperti orang lagi baca koran ....dan riff-riff guitar seperti mencet pepaya bonyok .....

ini link Black Dynamites : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3QXR9JPSp4
Ada Electric Johnny & his skyrockets : http://youtube.com/watch?v=CyIhVRpFRco
The Crazy Rockers : http://youtube.com/watch?v=fhI_bFg3PgY

dlll ternyata banyak sekali tampang melayu meraja di stage rock eropa ...... heibatssss berikan opinimu disini !!!!
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Terakhir diubah oleh yudi tanggal Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:22 am, total 2 kali diubah (Reason for editing : kumaha ikke nurjanah)
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Post by babikecap on Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:32 pm

Bahasan ini benar2 membuktikan kedigjayaan dirimu sebagai raja forum, Yas Mudi! Salud! Bener2 pengetahuan sekaligus pencerahan yg berguna. Gak ada kerjaan ya, Mas?
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Post by yudi on Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:00 pm

ndasmuuu hahaha wong sambil kerja saya yaa mencerahkan diri hahahaha habis saya kerjanya banyakan berproposal ria hehehehe dan perencanaaan yah gimana yaaah
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Post by babikecap on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:09 am

HAHAHAHAHA. Tapi bagus ini...coba kalo dirimu seperti ini dari dulu, pasti TA bisa lebih ajaib hasilnya. Pasti ini gara kelamaan sekolah...ckckckckck
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Post by yudi on Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:15 am

asu hihaihahhaihiahaihia
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Post by Qui-Gon Jean on Thu Apr 17, 2008 1:30 pm

Nggak apa-apa lha Mas Yud..
Lha wong mas Andy Tielman itu bisa jadi hebat gitu pasti karena gak ada kerjaan. Bener gak? Coba dia ngantor dari jam 7 pagi sampe jam 6 sore.. Beuuhh... mana ada waktu buat ngulik?
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Post by yudi on Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:08 pm

nguliknya di kantor kali jean hehehehehehe
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Post by PERSEBAYA on Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:20 am

dia ngantor d fender gituh? Neutral
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Post by yudi on Wed May 07, 2008 12:07 pm

y akagak lah zen ...kali aja di endorse sama fender
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